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In the Career section is "As well as programming, she wrote the manuals and technical specifications, realising communication was an important part of being successful."
The supplied reference does not support that.
The BBC Microcomputer System User Guide states "Original edition written by John Coll, edited by David Allen."
WP:NOR states that "Wikipedia articles must not contain original research." BlueWren0123 (talk) 16:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The source does say "I was one of the people who wrote all the documentation, communicating with other people, negotiating specifications.", which is pretty close, but that could definitely be worded differently. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH)16:51, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Tell me a more about what you are proposing but the "she said she" bit is not promising. Will come back in a few days. I hope that you can find something that will be acceptable. BlueWren0123 (talk) 17:22, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have read through this 'ref'. It is about the Acorn Micro that came before the Proton/BBC Microcomputer so it does not support a claim of documenting the BBC Microcomputer. Have removed the sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueWren0123 (talk • contribs) 11:56, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The everything2.com describes itself: "Our editorial process is not as strict as it is elsewhere", it is a collection of submitted "original writing[s] of many kinds". The reference (currently #4 ab) is based on two sources. One "ARM's way", an article in Electronics Weekly 29 April 1998 is available on the magazine's online content. It contains a recollection by Steve Furber: “in late 1983, I started working closely with Sophie Wilson who had developed all the versions of BASIC for the BBC Micro.” It seems that this has been conflated with a period of 15 years mentioned elsewhere.BlueWren0123 (talk) 19:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Editors have added birth name both in the lead and in the infobox. Should that be removed, per MOS:DEADNAME, as referring to a name not used, so far as I'm aware, for over 30 years? The vast majority of Sophie's notability derives from the period after 1994. The Sophie_Wilson#Personal_life section provides sufficient information without unnecessary invasion of privacy. MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The single reference stays. Previous Talk discussion went through all this and agreed using her born name once, in the introduction. I have reverted a recent repetition in the infobox. Without going through the discussion again, *"the vast majority of Sophie's notability derives from the period after 1994"* is untrue. Her birth name is used in a very large number of articles on the 1980s, both contemporary and historical, long before she became Sophie. As an aside, Sophie cameod in the BBC drama Micro Men which covers the work and successes of her on-screen character Roger Wilson at Acorn Computers. So she's apparently happy being connected with her Roger Wilson years. Anyway, so the single birth name stays as it is now. ToaneeM (talk) 20:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As per MOS:DEADNAME, "In the case of a living transgender or non-binary person, their birth name or former name (professional name, stage name, or pseudonym) should be included in the lead sentence of their main biographical article only if they were notable under that name. Introduce the prior name with either "born" or "formerly"." She most certainly was notable under that name and erasing connections with a substantial number of recorded achievements is not the intention of MOS:DEADNAME or WP.ToaneeM (talk) 10:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
